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Old 04-09-2020, 01:41 PM   #11
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Thanks for doing this, Gyeon Cancoat is a worthy comparison for sure...great stuff. Will be interesting to see if it can stand proudly next to 'Atomic Graphene' or will wilt in the face of burgeoning atomic technology. Curious if you wore any radiation protection given the proximity to 'Atomic Graphene'?
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Old 04-09-2020, 01:57 PM   #12
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I found the following quotes on Zymol reseller’s websites and the first one may explain the streaking experienced by the user over on the Autopia Forum:

It’s an alternative to wax or ceramic, and not designed to go over either. Durability is years rather than months.

The second quote suggests we may be waiting some time for Muska’s report on durability:

Unlike silicones, waxes and polymers that ‘sit’ on a painted surface, Graphene bonds atomically with the paint. This gives it durability of 18-24 months.

Wishful thinking? I hope not, but time will tell.

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Old 04-09-2020, 03:38 PM   #13
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Tried mine straight onto a ONR washed Can coated Hilux roof and bonnet.
No issues, very reflective.
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Point 7. in the application instructions appears a little strange.

After applying the product, spreading it and letting it sit for 90-120 seconds you spray again before buffing off.

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So it’s another product similar to the likes of reload or C2 that claim to last 6-9 months, but with the latest buzzword chemical graphene instead of Si02. And already sounds like a finicky application. At a hefty price too.

I’ll be surprised if this outlasts cancoat in a proper test, but personally I would have done more prep to remove previous products than a wash with reset and eraser wipe down.
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It actually claims a durability of 18-24 months, so it should far outlast CanCoat (as much as I love that product)

Hopefully some reviews start popping up soon as I couldn't find anything at all on youTube.
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So it’s another product similar to the likes of reload or C2 that claim to last 6-9 months, but with the latest buzzword chemical graphene instead of Si02. And already sounds like a finicky application. At a hefty price too.

I’ll be surprised if this outlasts cancoat in a proper test, but personally I would have done more prep to remove previous products than a wash with reset and eraser wipe down.
I for one hope you are incorrect but wouldnt be surprised if you're spot on! Its such a shame that even in my short time being passionate about detailing, what you have said about buzzwords is SO true. 'Ceramic' is my peeve at the moment.

I've said above though, I quite like that the OP hasnt prepped the panel to the n'th degree as someone like myself ( a weekend warrior) wouldnt necessarily have the time and it would be great to compare this against other 'lazy' spray sealants where prep isnt everything. Suppose, in a way, theyre giving it the worst chance at bonding not doing a full decon but by the same account we then get a 'worst case scenario' from the test
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Continuing with my not very scientific thoughts

I sprayed over the panel with a hose from my DI Vessel, keen to observe the water behaviour (prior to any washing, so take as you will)

After a short rinse I misted the panel:

Some nice fairly uniform beading from Zymol


Tighter and even more uniform from CanCoat

I thought CanCoat definitely edged the water behaviour, noticeably so. What do you think? Here is a short clip on the 'flat' trigger setting.

https://youtu.be/Wn356a0NJ40
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Initial beading is impressive and seems to sheet nicely too.
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Initial beading is impressive and seems to sheet nicely too.
Question is, are the hydrophobic characteristics due to graphene?

Is graphene Hydrophobic or Hydrophillic?

Now I ain't saying I understand all this but it appears as if it has something to do with the thickness of the graphene layer. I think in thin layers, it's actually hydrophillic. And as Albert Yow of SPS mentions, the excellent water behavior of their graphene coating is due to amped up PDMS as opposed to the graphene which is there primarily as an ?insulator? in hopes of keeping surface temps down. :shrug:

https://www.msesupplies.com/blogs/ne...or-hydrophobic

Quite interesting regardless
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