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Old 27-02-2020, 09:00 PM   #1
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Ceramic coating 1yr later

I had my car paint corrected, polished and ceramic coating applied a year ago with Gyeon Duraflex.

This is my first time having a ceramic coating applied to my car and I spent a lot of money at a detailer having it done and I am unsure what to think of it.

1 year on and it has lost all of its self-cleaning properties, there is zero beading and the only thing left is the glossy look. I have tried to restore it with CarPro Reset and a Decon shampoo as suggested in my previous post on here and not much success.

My car is also covered in tiny scratches, marring and swirl marks that have been picked up from many motorway miles I have done in the car and from the weekly cleaning routine (I wash with pre-wash, 2 bucket method and dry with a drying aid like QD or Gyeon Cure).

I don't really see what I have gained with ceramic coating, it looks glossy and that's about it. No easier to clean.
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Old 27-02-2020, 09:35 PM   #2
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Personally I've never been sold on these coatings for precisely the reasons you mention.
If I was you I'd contact the detailer who applied your coating and see what they say, as I assume it comes with some kind of guarantee on durability
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Old 27-02-2020, 09:48 PM   #3
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I'm not familiar with Gyeon products, but after a year of coating on a car that sat outside rain and shine you can expect the coating to be pretty clogged up. I had this issue myself after just 4 months after coating a car myself in cquartz and had thought it had completely failed. A proper decontamination has to be done first, with a strong mix of reset (500:1) after a good pre-wash. You might want to go over it with reset twice, and even foam on a few oz of reset for good measure. Then a wipe down with tarX while still damp, rinse, then once over with an iron fallout remover, and they wash the car down one more time with and rinse it really thoroughly. I mean blast to off slowly to get all the soap and chemicals off. Then see what you are dealing with. Do the plastic bag test and see what you can feel in the paint. For me my coating came back about 80% and beading nicely, but it didn't last, after a few weeks of heavy rain and driving motorways it was slowly sheeting at best. I did some research and found that it was likely limescale from heavy water that was clogging things. I use some Koch Chemie FSE which has limescale removers and man did that make a huge difference to things. The car has been beading like brand new for weeks now, and I can no longer feel grit with the plastic bag test. I've since found Labocosmetica Perfecta which is a lime scale removing shampoo, and will use that in my wash rotation.

Odds are youre suffering for contamination and haven't been aggressive enough in your decon washing. Try that 1st and try some lime scale remover and see how you go. I suppose if you are suffering scratches and such you may want to just start again and polish the car. maybe try a different coating, or go with someone else if ceramic isn't for you.

Also your QD may effect your coatings performance, so maybe stick to SIO2 type spray toppers once in a while instead. I've tried cure and haven't found it to last very long. Reload has a slight edge, but both need to be used fairly frequently, especially with heavy water or strong shampoos. For now I'm sticking to Hydro2 for ease of use (laziness), and reload every couple months myself.
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Havent tried gyeon coatings but when i had nanolex si3d on my daily driver it was easier to wash and dry after approx. 1 year.... beading was fine after every wash.
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My car is also covered in tiny scratches, marring and swirl marks that have been picked up from many motorway miles I have done in the car...
Do you mind me asking how many miles have been covered since the coating was applied?
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I have used coatings and the latest is going strong after the first year. The previous was replaced after 3 years. Decon and prep is vital but also getting the right product and maintaining it with gentle washing and a sympathetic drying aid/ QD.

In the poor weather I am also experiencing water drops collecting dirt and dragging it back creating random track lines through the dirt on the doors. Looks weird, yet kinda cool!
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Personally I've never been sold on these coatings for precisely the reasons you mention.
If I was you I'd contact the detailer who applied your coating and see what they say, as I assume it comes with some kind of guarantee on durability
And if you're as obessive as me with scratches then when you buff them out it needs to be re-coated and takes more effort!
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And if you're as obessive as me with scratches then when you buff them out it needs to be re-coated and takes more effort!
I was the same with any form of hologram or minor scratch... constantly chasing perfection. I got a coating to stop me from the inevitable burn through and it has at least served this purpose.

The coating itself is next to gone after 6 months around the lower and rear panels despite multiple attempts and specialist products to revive/de-clog it. Pretty disappointing.
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I had my car paint corrected, polished and ceramic coating applied a year ago with Gyeon Duraflex.

This is my first time having a ceramic coating applied to my car and I spent a lot of money at a detailer having it done and I am unsure what to think of it.

1 year on and it has lost all of its self-cleaning properties, there is zero beading and the only thing left is the glossy look. I have tried to restore it with CarPro Reset and a Decon shampoo as suggested in my previous post on here and not much success.

My car is also covered in tiny scratches, marring and swirl marks that have been picked up from many motorway miles I have done in the car and from the weekly cleaning routine (I wash with pre-wash, 2 bucket method and dry with a drying aid like QD or Gyeon Cure).

I don't really see what I have gained with ceramic coating, it looks glossy and that's about it. No easier to clean.
I would suggest that if you washed it with Garage Therapy Decon Shampoo and it still didn't bring the coating back to life then the coating has failed most likely due to three variables. Firstly, the coating didn't bond very well initially, secondly incorrect washing, technique which causing the swirling has damaged the coating and thirdly the environment in which you drive in has worn away the coating.

1 and 2 is on the above is on the assumption you have properly cared for the coating and conducted a full decon (decon shampoo, fall out remover, waterspot removal if necessary and removing tar deposits).

I recommend going back to the detailer who installed the coating so you can troubleshoot where potentially the problem area is. Its unlikely Gyeon product has failed as they make exceptional coatings.
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